Category Archives: Babylon

6. The Judgement Is Set

By John Thiel, The Consummation of the Everlasting Covenant Conference, Study 6, mp3

The last ten studies have depicted the everlasting covenant in application. We went into the details in regards to the everlasting covenant in regards to the rock experience of Jesus Christ. That rock that depicted to us the encounter we make with God in the fact that our sins were taken by him in living realities. As we embrace that picture and see I am associated with that rock and I accept that rock and am broken, God lifts us up again and binds up our broken heartedness and applies the balm of Gilead. This everlasting covenant that God had foreseen is rejected by some and accepted by others. We saw how this everlasting covenant is played back and forward by others where those who build on the rock become living stones in the temple of the Lord.

Those who fabricate the pure representations of God’s word build another temple, a counterfeit. We saw how Satan is at work how he is trying to obliterate and destroy this true realisation by wiping out those who accept it. So that the false one could be exonerated so that people like Abel have suffered all the way down the line but God is safe guarding his rock, his temple. The people who have fallen on the rock and who have been bound up and who have responded to this everlasting covenant are now addressed in Revelation 14. These people living at such a time in which this message was first introduced and thereafter is addressed.

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Will the Ship Go Through?

There is but one church in the world who are at the present time (Sr. White’s time, NOT our time) standing in the breach, and making up the hedge, building up the old waste places; and for any man to call the attention of the world and other churches to this church, denouncing her as Babylon, is to do a work in harmony with him who is the accuser of the brethren. Is it possible that men will arise from among us, who speak perverse things, and give voice to the very sentiments that Satan would have disseminated in the worldling regard to those who keep the commandments of God, and have the faith of Jesus? {TM 50.2}

Again I say, The Lord hath not spoken by any messenger who calls the church that keeps the commandments of God, Babylon. {2SM 68.3}

We are in danger of becoming a sister to fallen Babylon, of allowing our churches to become corrupted, and filled with every foul spirit, a cage for every unclean and hateful bird; and will we be clear unless we make decided movements to cure the existing evil? {21MR 380.1} Read the rest of this entry

Is the Church Infallible?

Regarding the testimonies, nothing is ignored; nothing is cast aside; but time and place must be considered. Nothing must be done untimely. {1SM 57.2}

Seventh-day Adventists say it does not matter how far they go in apostasy, they are still the church of God. Sr White said the SDA church is not Babylon. At the time when Sr White said that, the Adventist church was still teaching correct messages. She made it clear that it was the commandment-keeping people that made the church the church of God.

Again I say, The Lord hath not spoken by any messenger who calls the church that keeps the commandments of God, Babylon. {2SM 68.3}

God has a church upon the earth who are His chosen people, who keep His Commandments. TM page 61. Read the rest of this entry

1. The Judgment Regarding Babylon

By John Thiel, Second Angel’s Message, study 1, mp3

The second angel’s message is necessary because the first angel’s message was not heeded. In rejecting the first angel’s message, a warning needed to be given in the second angel’s message – Babylon is fallen, is fallen that great city because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication. Read the rest of this entry

5. Ancient Babylon

By John Thiel, Second Angel’s Message, study 5, mp3

In our last study ‘Papal Infiltration and Domination’ what took place was not merely on a political or on a church organisational level but also on a personal level. There was a new modelling of the cause. That’s how it happened in the early Christian church. It was again repeated in the Protestant churches:

To secure converts, the exalted standard of the Christian faith was lowered, and as the result a pagan flood, flowing into the church, carried with it its customs, practices, and idols. As the founders, those who possessed the true spirit of reform, pass away, their descendants come forward and new-model the cause. While blindly clinging to the creed of their fathers and refusing to accept any truth in advance of what they saw, the children of the reformers depart widely from their example of humility, self-denial, and renunciation of the world. Thus the first simplicity disappears. A worldly flood, flowing into the church, carries with it its customs, practices, and idols. GC 384 Read the rest of this entry

6. Ancient and Current Practises of Babylon

By John Thiel, Second Angel’s Message, study 6, mp3

Under the second angel’s message Babylon is always applied to the people or the church having once been faithful becoming corrupt from Noah’s time right through. This message is appropriate for people in modern times as it was way back there. Ancient Babylon was the city that set the stage for all the others to follow. Rome today is still affected by the events of the past and also for the future. Ancient Babylon has affected the world all through history until now.

Their children, along with new converts, came forward and new-modelled the cause. To secure converts, the exalted standard of the Christian faith was lowered, and as the result a pagan flood, flowing into the church, carried with it its customs, practices, and idols. GC 385 Read the rest of this entry

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