The Cross of Jesus from Heaven to Earth


By John Thiel mp3 - The Power of the Cross 2014

Scripture Reading Matthew 16:24-25 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

We want to contemplate the cross that Jesus embraced long before He met Calvary, Golgotha. We want to pick up the cross of Jesus from heaven down to earth and the journey that He continued until He reached Calvary. When we have our next study we will go from Gethsemane to Calvary. But now we want to study the power of the cross as it is revealed from heaven to earth. The purpose that we are studying this is that we may appreciate the power that comes from that; the power to conquer in the battle with sin.

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How Strong Are the Angels?



In heaven there is perfect harmony that works under the direction of a leading angel in music. This is the lesson that if we want to have harmony, this is God’s representation and example of harmony. There is order in heaven. The order is so fascinating. To some people these things appear as unnecessary in heaven.

There is perfect order and harmony in the Holy City. All the angels that are commissioned to visit the earth hold a golden card, which they present to the angels at the gates of the city as they pass in and out. Heaven is a good place. I long to be there and behold my lovely Jesus {EW 39.2}

Everyone has their place; there is the gatekeeper, maybe gatekeepers, there is a golden card by which the angels can recognise these persons have a right to enter the city. Read the rest of this entry

Leaning on the Arm of Flesh


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

Scripture Reading: Isaiah 52:8 Thy watchmen shall lift up the voice; with the voice together shall they sing: for they shall see eye to eye, when the LORD shall bring again Zion. Break forth into joy, sing together, ye waste places of Jerusalem: for the LORD hath comforted his people, he hath redeemed Jerusalem. 10The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

Many times I have sung this hymn and it caused me a few challenges of thought:

“I am trusting Thee Lord Jesus, trusting only thee”

It goes on to say for all the different situations of life; for guiding me, for pardon, for mercy, to supply all my needs. Different thoughts come into my mind that I needed the guidance of such as my parents as I didn’t always listen to their guidance thinking I was following the guidance of the Lord in my life and then I got unstuck. I was looking for a person to trust. We often need to trust each other but trusting only thee; does that mean I don’t trust other people? These were the thoughts that often perplexed my mind.

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I Have Found a Ransom


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3 The Power of the Cross 2014

Scripture Reading: Hosea 6:4 O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness [is] as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away.

We continue the series on the power of the cross. God has compassion over our weakness. With such compassion that He has to help weak sinful human beings in their utter helplessness and depravity to do anything right, our goodness is like the morning cloud; for your goodness [is] as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away. Read the rest of this entry

Mastering the Peril of the Minority Syndrome


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

When I was working in New Zealand there were people scattered all over and whenever I went to visit them, I left behind isolated people. They would often feel very much separated and they felt, is this really right? Are we in the right company with such a small number as we are? Is this truly the church of God? This has been the story of a question in many people’s minds even to our own experience now and so the title of this message is Mastering the Peril of the Minority Syndrome and isolation from one another. We need to master this.

If we are Christians, if we are going to follow Jesus precisely the way He really is, notice what it says in the Spirit of Prophecy:

Jesus was among the lowly of the earth. He did not take His position by the side of the learned rabbis or the rulers. He was not found among the potentates of earth, but among the lowly ones. The truth was never found among the majority. It was ever found among the minority.  {TDG 319.4}

Those last two sentences is the introductory thought. The truth was never found among the majority. It was ever found among the minority.The truth as received by the pioneers of the Adventist message is with those who are the true reformers of today; it is a truth that is ever with the minority. Read the rest of this entry

The Gates of the New Jerusalem


Compiled by the typist. Notes taken from a John Thiel sermon.

For ninety years the wicked live again, the gates to the new Jerusalem are opened and then later closed…

After the judgment of the wicked dead had been finished, at the end of the one thousand years, Jesus left the city, and the saints and a train of the angelic host followed Him.  {EW 291.1}

Revelation 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 

Revelation 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11 Having the glory of God: and her light [was] like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;  12 And had a wall great and high, [and] had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are [the names] of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:  13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.  14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.  15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof. 

There is the New Jerusalem, the metropolis of the glorified new earth, “a crown of glory in the hand of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of thy God.” Isaiah 62:3. “Her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal.” Revelation 21:11.  {FLB 363.2} 

And they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord giveth them light.” Revelation 22:5. The light of the sun will be superseded by a radiance which is not painfully dazzling, yet which immeasurably surpasses the brightness of our noontide. The glory of God and the Lamb floods the Holy City with unfading light. The redeemed walk in the sunless glory of perpetual day.  {FLB 363.4} 

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John Thiel Preaches the 1888 Message on YouTube

The Law Our School Master

The mind looks to the cross after its been bombarded with the law, the law, the law, and with imperfect sight is discerned Christ on the cross. What is happening there? He died because of sin? What is sin? Sin is the transgression of the law. What? Isn’t Jesus sinless? And he died because of transgression of the law? Then the eyes are opened.

The law is broken but cannot pardon the transgressor. It is our schoolmaster, condemning to punishment. Where is the remedy? The law drives us to Christ, who was hanged upon the cross that He might be able to impart His righteousness to fallen, sinful man and thus present men to His Father in His righteous character (MS 50, 1900). {6BC 1110.8}

Here is something to enter into. This is not just a theory this is an experience which I know you are able to identify with. How many of us are struggling through these horrifying experiences? The atonement of Jesus Christ on the cross, what is he hanging there for? Because he actually experienced not only the consequence of transgression, he experienced you and me and now it strikes, what have I done to him? And why has he done that? So that now through him I might have his faith that I might come to faith. This is the light of 1888. This is what was rejected. Can you see why? Because proud leaders of Adventism are no different than Pharisees and the Pharisees rejected Christ as it unveiled to them their true decrepit condition. Read the rest of this entry

How to Deal with Inner Self

New sermons on YouTube

Hebrews 10:24 Let us consider one another to provoke unto love and good works.  25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

It is easy claimed that we may provoke unto love but what is the provocation that leads us to love God and perform good works? It is the same in which Jesus provoked the disciples when we first come to follow Jesus, we are inwardly convinced that what Jesus provides is rational, sound evidence that here is truth. Here is security. Here is a safe path to go where I can cast my whole heart upon that whole path.

Provoke One Another

Although we are in the natural man, our battle is not fought by the natural man.  I do not use the natural man.

How to Deal with Inner Self

God pierces all disguises and reads the inner life. All things are open to him. Naked and open to Him with whom we have to do.

Understanding the Inner Self

How it bristles when we are slighted. If my natural man is not subdued, then is Christ functioning within? I am separated from Christ and it will give me trouble in the church as trials will come from that problem.  Jesus said the candle stick will be removed from that church as their separation from one another reflects the fact they are separated from Christ. We want to press together.

Regulating the Inner Life

The thief on the cross, died in perfect hope. He was blameless before the Lord because Jesus had justified him. He had no way of correcting his life. He was hanging on the cross as he was a thief. Others lived all their lifetime to a particular point where like Apostle Paul, they could speak the words of 2 Timothy 4 7-8. I have fought the good fight, I finished the course, I have kept the faith, henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness.

Without Fault



The Power of God


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3 - The Power of the Cross 2014

2 Corinthians 13:3 Since ye seek a proof of Christ speaking in me,

Amongst all the preachers and teachers, we seek for proof of Christ speaking in me.

2 Corinthians 13:3 …which to you-ward is not weak, but is mighty in you. For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him by the power of God toward you.

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The Weakness of Christ the Man


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3 – The Power of the Cross 2014

The power of God can actually operate through Jesus Christ. You cannot appreciate the power of God unless you realise your weakness and your smallness. In our weakness and depravity which is the law of sin in my members, the moment that we want to do what is right because our mind has been affected by the purity of God and His truth and His law, we immediately discover there is a law in our members that fights against the law and the expectations of God.

According to the words of Apostle Paul, he says there is a law in my members that works contrary to the law of my mind. O wretched man that I am! Who shall deliver me from the body of this death, from this power? We read that there is a way by which we can actually conquer the weakness of our sinful flesh.

The body is the only medium through which the mind and the soul are developed for the upbuilding of character. Hence it is that the adversary of souls directs his temptations to the enfeebling and degrading of the physical powers. His success here means the surrender to evil of the whole being. The tendencies of our physical nature, unless under the dominion of a higher power, will surely work ruin and death. {MH 130.1}

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The Consummation of the Everlasting Covenant Videos

New series on YouTube:

Is the Nature of Christ Doctrine Important Part 2

This is an excerpt of a previously published sermon. Did Jesus come right down into the pit with us? Some say He only reached down with His hand. This doctrine is under attack today by some ministries. How important is it? Can we be saved without understanding it?

Jesus Came into the Pit with us

In 1888 there was need of a revival. Do we need that now? Right here we need it and it must be rekindled right now. Do you need to know when you have fallen again and again? You see yourself in a true condition of depraved lukewarmness and you try to do it and you can’t recover yourself from it. What do you need to see? Especially when Satan whispers; See, how many times you’ve tried? See how absolutely hopeless you are? You’ve tried countless times and you’ve fallen flat on your face again. Your case is hopeless. He whispers that. Because the voice of Satan whispers that and the Lord shows me my sins, we confuse the voice of Satan with the voice of God.

We think God is an enemy, Jacobs’s trouble. We need to see Jesus when we are down there. Where do you see Jesus? Up there or where I am in the pit? If you see Jesus up there, you will say I’m never going to make it. He will try to reach his hand to you and you won’t be able to take hold of it. You need to see your totally depraved condition. This was the message of 1888. God doesn’t just start talking, He says listen to me.

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Is the Nature of Christ Doctrine Important Part 1

Audio: mp3

This an extract of a sermon preached in 2010 called The Rock. Many people do not feel the detail of the doctrine on the nature of Christ is vitally important but here is a short excerpt that says we are to respect Jesus at one with us as much as his holiness. I hope you will enjoy this sermon as much as I have.

Jesus the Rock  

Is He at one with the overwhelmed? He is. As He is at one with the overwhelmed, take it in, believe it. He was on Golgothas hill crying my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? He died of a broken heart, but He says:

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The Compassion of God


By John Thiel, mp3 The Power of the Cross 2014

Scripture Reading: 1 John 2:1-2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:  And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world. 

The message that we are meditating upon is entitled God’s compassion. As we study this characteristic of God, we will see once again the power of the cross.

Psalm 78:37-39 For their heart was not right with him, neither were they stedfast in his covenant.  But he, [being] full of compassion, forgave [their] iniquity, and destroyed [them] not: yea, many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath. For he remembered that they [were but] flesh; a wind that passeth away, and cometh not again. 

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The Weakness and Depravity of Humanity

0808120 By John Thiel, mp3 – The Power of the Cross 2014

 We want to meditate upon the power of the cross and appreciate a message of understanding in reference to the power applicable to the person who needs the power; the object upon which the power is to be exercised. The power of the cross is given for a purpose to benefit the sinner. It is a power that is needed to achieve what a sinner cannot do.

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 

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The Dry Desert Can Blossom


By John Thiel mp3

Scripture reading: Isaiah 43:19 Behold, I will do a new thing; now it shall spring forth; shall ye not know it? I will even make a way in the wilderness, [and] rivers in the desert. 20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, [and] rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

I wish to share the word of God in reference to when the desert is all parched in our life experience and we need refreshment. I wish to explore God’s word in reference to the spiritual application of Isaiah 43:19-20 where God says that in the wilderness He will give waters, rivers in the desert to give drink to His people.

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The King of the North and the Time of the End

By Eric Betts


Daniel chapter 11 is a prophecy unlike the previous prophecies in the book of Daniel in that it is a literal prophecy in the same vein that the Saviour’s discourse on the mount of Olives is descriptive of a literal prophecy fulfilment.

In other words, the symbols that you find in the other prophecies don’t exist in Daniel 11. Daniel 11 is speaking in very plain language, just as Revelation 16 is speaking to us in very plain language. As a matter of fact, the Bible uses this terminology here in Daniel chapter 11.

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The Truth that Drives the Sinner to Christ


By John Thiel mp3

Scripture reading: Hebrews 2:1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let [them] slip. 2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward; 3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard [him];

At the second advent of Jesus, He will bring His reward with Him for all those who receive Him as their Saviour.

Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward [is] with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

According as his work shall be. The work that we as followers of Jesus do here on this earth is going to be rewarded in the sense that we will continue to exercise the talents and the gifts that we have exercised here on this earth in the name of the Lord. There we will continue to fulfill those gifts and talents and make them really beautiful. There is another side to this reward. He comes with a reward according to their works. God in His righteous judgment will:

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Confidence without Pride


By John Thiel, Audio: Confidence Without Pride

Scripture reading: Hebrews 6:11 And we desire that every one of you do show the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end: 12 That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

Confidence without pride, this raises a very interesting question. Is it possible to be filled with confidence and assurance and know what we know and yet not be filled with pride? Is there such a reality to be absolutely confident that where we stand is absolutely correct and yet not be filled with pride? This question is addressed by the Lord in the following scripture:

Isaiah 30:15 For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not.
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The Voice of Christ’s Body


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

At this time we want to fine tune into the voice of God as it comes from His church.

The voice of Christ’s body. At the very outset, it is absolutely imperative that we have a correct understanding of Christ’s church. To define His church is my first purpose. When we see clearly what is Christ’s church, then we can be correctly be affected by the authority of that church.

The Definition of His Church

The headquarters of Gods church; where is that?

Hebrews 12:22But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect.

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Pure Truth


By John Thiel mp3

Scripture Reading – John 8:31-32 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, [then] are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Truth for Salvation

Will Your Anchor Hold? We want to understand what it means to have an anchor in these times of multiple opposing doctrines and teachings that are coming upon God’s people in the Advent faith. Considering the security and assurance that is spoken of in having an anchor that will stand immovable amongst all the strains and stresses that are upon God’s people today, especially in reference to truth, do we have an anchor? In our Scripture reading Jesus speaks to us that to be truly free, we must know the truth. According to those words of Jesus, can you be free if you hold any error? This is a very serious question. Jesus said if you continue in my word, then you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free. What will set us free? The truth will set us free. If it is the truth and we hold any error, how important then it is that truth is what we have. There is another reference in the words of Jesus in regards to the truth. He uses the same mental exercise of truth in reference to our salvation in sanctification. Read the rest of this entry

Current Church Events in Prophecy


By John Thiel Audio: mp3

We are often perplexed regarding where we stand in the timeline of God’s plans for us as a church and individuals. This has always been a problem in the lives of God’s people in the past. They did not always recognise present truth.

In the time of Noah, many people didn’t realise that in God’s timeline they had to get into that ark. In the time of Babylon they did not know that they were to be there for those seventy years. They were meant to be there.

God had pointed out that they were to be there for seventy years and if they would listen to the prophecy they knew that after seventy years they would go back home but many didn’t. In the time of Christ there was a timeline, there was a recognition of the birth and then of the baptism of Jesus. They did not recognise the timeline for present experience and so for us today. We must know where we should be in God’s timeline.

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How to Deal With Opposition


I learnt a lot from the testimonies when I first came to the truth. The truth that we espouse is an unpopular truth.

Let us not feel that we have heavy trials to bear, severe conflicts to endure, in representing unpopular truth. {6T 120.2}

Why is it unpopular? People say all sorts of lovely things about Jesus but the real Jesus, they don’t want. It is an unpopular truth that Jesus stands as head of.

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What Crucified Jesus and His Disciples


By John Thiel mp3

Isaiah 66:5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name’s sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

Can you see a startling element in this scripture? Among brethren who worship together, there are such who tremble at His word and there are others who worship God in the pride of their preeminence as God’s children. Those that tremble at God’s word are disliked by their brethren. There comes a point in time when their brethren will actually regard it as a favour done to God and something to glorify God with, that they shall put these people that tremble at God’s word out of their fellowship.

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The Wisdom of the Wise


By John Thiel mp3

We have been realising the harvest of what has been sown and that is met in these last days. The end of this world has produced perils which come as a result of what has been sown. The seeds of dissension produced strife, confusion, and heartache. They produced a devouring of one another. This is what transpires in the last days, people doing this. In this time of harvest, in the end of the world, we are in need of being able to find our way through. The future studies will be the subtleties of Satan that are manifested in these last days and the bundling experience that is written of for the last days. As we go through these experiences as are written, we need wisdom to understand those subjects. We now recall the words of Daniel chapter 12 when Daniel stands in his lot just now. This is speaking about the total closing of the events of the end. There are a people standing there.

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Hiding Securely


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

Facing Last Day Perils Conference

Scripture reading: Isaiah 26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

There are very troublesome frightening perplexities ahead of us and already upon us and there is a danger that when we look at them and focus upon them we may lose our focus upon Jesus. However Jesus is the one who will be with us through those perplexities. This must lace all the subjects that we pursue so that those perplexities, although they are perplexities are illuminated by the presence of Jesus so that while they are perplexing and fearful and awesome and awful, we will not be discomfited with those terrible realities. To complete our contemplations and to take with us an intelligent strength and comfort, we want to focus upon our hiding place, hiding securely in our hiding place.

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The Swelling of Jacob’s Trouble


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

Facing Last Days Perils conference

Many people think that Jacob’s trouble is just bang, there it is. Is it true that Jacob’s trouble is something that swells into greater and more intense activity? This is what we want to examine.

In the 1840s onwards, perplexities began to threaten. In 1848 a world war was threatening but then it just suddenly stopped. From that time as we look back through the history, we got to the time of 1914 and there was the First World War and all the horrendous experiences that were involved there. But they were even small in comparison to the Second World War and to the terrible time of the depression that happened in between. Then it moved on to a time in which there was the cold war with men’s hearts failing them for fear of the things that were coming on the planet. Now we are seeing them gathering more and more momentum.

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The Love of God and Mans Discouragement


Those who worship God in spirit and in truth know and understand what the scripture says, God is love. We need to continue to worship God in the deep sense of that love. The God that created man and all that surrounded man at creation, this beautiful planet that He created, when you look at it closely, it was all created by a motive of love; and it was simply addressed in this beautiful account of God having finished His creation and looking upon it: Read the rest of this entry

Remarriage in the Light of the Inspired Word

Marriage was divinely established in Eden and affirmed by Jesus to be a lifelong union between a man and a woman in loving companionship. For the Christian a marriage commitment is to God as well as to the spouse, and should be entered into only between partners who share a common faith. Mutual love, honor, respect, and responsibility are the fabric of this relationship, which is to reflect the love, sanctity, closeness, and permanence of the relationship between Christ and His church. Regarding divorce, Jesus taught that the person who divorces a spouse, except for fornication, and marries another, commits adultery.

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The Bundling Experience – The Gleaning Time is Now


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

This meditation is in reference to what the angels the reapers, are doing in the time of harvest. It’s really hard for us to visualise what Jesus was teaching when he taught about the harvest and the angels reaping, but we want to try and understand the experience of the bundling.

Matthew 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; 38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one];

Now we come to the reaping:

Matthew 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. 40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. 41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

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