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Second Angels Message

10. Reformation within the Church


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

Through the studies of the second angel’s message we have focused on Babylon, because that is what the message was, Babylon is fallen. We have seen the harlot, the woman / church that became corrupt and rejected the first angel’s message which was trying to restore her, the church of Sardis. As we studied into the babylonish title, we also beheld that Rome was Babylon, the Mother of harlots, with the Protestants being the daughters, and the United States of America being the apostate Protestant nation, and the dragon being paganism. We looked into the New Age movement of today, which is a mingling of paganism with all these other ingredients so that we have a new movement of enlightenment, as the people call it.

Ever since the three angels’ messages have been proclaimed, ever since 1844, we are living in an atmosphere that we must be careful not to be coloured by. It is an atmosphere in which we must proclaim the three angels’ messages because of that atmosphere. We recall that when we studied the first angel’s message we looked into the subject of who the angels are, and the following quote has been instrumental in helping us to understand that:

The angels are represented as flying in the midst of heaven, proclaiming to the world a message of warning, and having a direct bearing upon the people living in the last days of this earth’s history. No one hears the voice of these angels, for they are a symbol to represent the people of God who are working in harmony with the universe of heaven. Men and women, enlightened by the Spirit of God and sanctified through the truth, proclaim the three messages in their order. {2SM 387.1} Read the rest of this entry

7. Sunday Laws (Second Angel)


By John Thiel, Audio: Sunday Laws

We have studied how Sunday has come into existence as a day of worship in ancient Babylon and thereafter.  Also how the Babylonish churches have developed a strong stand that they would make laws in reference to Sunday. In the third angel’s message we will see how those Sunday laws will be enacted.

Revelation 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 

Apostate Protestantism under the imagery of the beast has been identified as America. The beast that was killing and captivating received a fatal wound at the time when the papacy was receiving its attacks under Napoleon in 1798.  This other beast coming up out of the earth was America. America in its religious character would eventually be responsible to affect the world so the people would return their respect towards the first beast (the papacy) by the power of its technological wonders. By these America has had power enforcing its religious powers with the government. As the papacy did, America will do the same. Read the rest of this entry

8. Spiritualism


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

In our quest of understanding the second angel we are looking now at the subject of spiritualism. The second angel’s message leaves you to puzzle as to where spiritualism comes into this.

Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Where is spiritualism in these words? In our past studies on the second angel we saw that when it says, Babylon is fallen, it particularly pertains to the USA – Apostate Protestantism. We saw that it is fed by Roman Catholicism, and how Roman Catholicism was fed by pagan Rome, which was itself fed by Babylon way back in Nimrod’s time. The ingredient of Paganism is what has fed and supported and sustained the Babylonish influence thereafter. Paganism infiltrated. Read the rest of this entry

4. Papal Infiltration

By John Thiel, Audio: Papal Infiltration

Babylon is those who rejected the first angels message particularly in the USA.  What is apostate Protestantism? It is the religious side of the USA being Babylon. Protestantism and Republicanism are used by Satan to re-power the papacy and  the papacy is working behind the scenes. The papacy has infiltrated America so that America could be used to again restore the fatal wound that the papacy had received. The rejecters of the first angel’s message were announced as Babylon.

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3. America’s Role in Prophecy


By John Thiel, Audio: Amercia’s Role in Prophecy

Revelation 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

This message applies after the first angel’s message has been given and the reaction of those who heard the first angel’s message which called forth the second angel’s message. They are addressed as Babylon. Babylon is fallen. Why the term Babylon?

Revelation 17:5 And upon her forehead [was] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Read the rest of this entry

2. Apostate Protestantism


By John Thiel, Audio: Apostate Protestantism

Revelation 3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Who were the people in reference to Babylon who rejected the first angel? Protestants. We will now look at Protestantism regarding the message. What is the kernel of resistance in Protestantism? To give God the glory.

2 Peter 1:5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;  1:6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 1:7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.

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9. The New Age Movement


By John Thiel, Audio: mp3

Spiritualism was the very motive of paganism. Ancient Babylon fell into spiritualism, and by rejecting the first angel’s message the United States of America, apostate Protestantism, commenced a path that would ultimately cause them to embrace spiritualism.

When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of Papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1}

What happened back in 1844 when the first angel’s message was rejected prompted the preaching of the second angel’s message, Babylon is fallen. By the fact that they rejected the first angel’s message they were now poised to reach their hand across to the Papacy, because they were already being used from that time onwards to restore the fatal wound of the Papacy. We are now looking at the deterioration from that point on and we look at the prophetic picture and see how realistically this statement has actually been happening in front of our very eyes. We can recognise that the Papal / Protestant amalgamation is taking place. Several years ago even the reformed churches like Lutheranism were playing handies with the Catholic Church. In these amalgamations of protestant churches with the papacy, they are reaching their hands across to each other. There is also spiritualism, and all that will continue until finally it comes to its fruition. Read the rest of this entry

1. The Judgment Regarding Babylon


By John Thiel, Audio: The Judgement Regarding Babylon

The second angel’s message is necessary because the first angel’s message was not heeded. In rejecting the first angel’s message, a warning needed to be given in the second angel’s message – Babylon is fallen, is fallen that great city because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

That message was first proclaimed by the servants of God in the summer of 1844. As a result, many left the fallen churches. In connection with this message the midnight cry. [SEE MATTHEW 25:1-13.] was given: Behold, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him. In every part of the land light was given concerning this message and the cry aroused thousands. It went from city to city, from village to village, and into the remote country regions. It reached the learned and talented, as well as the obscure and humble. This was the happiest year of my life. My heart was full of glad expectation; but I felt great pity and anxiety for those who were in discouragement and had no hope in Jesus. We united, as a people, in earnest prayer for a true experience and the unmistakable evidence of our acceptance with God. {CET 51.1}

May we also seek earnestly for a true experience with God in Christ Jesus as we continue to study this second angel’s message and find an answering chord in our heart to come out of her my people. Read the rest of this entry

5. Ancient Babylon


By John Thiel, Audio: Ancient Babylon

In our last study ‘Papal Infiltration and Domination’ what took place was not merely on a political or on a church organisational level but also on a personal level. There was a new modelling of the cause. That’s how it happened in the early Christian church. It was again repeated in the Protestant churches:

To secure converts, the exalted standard of the Christian faith was lowered, and as the result a pagan flood, flowing into the church, carried with it its customs, practices, and idols. As the founders, those who possessed the true spirit of reform, pass away, their descendants come forward and new-model the cause. While blindly clinging to the creed of their fathers and refusing to accept any truth in advance of what they saw, the children of the reformers depart widely from their example of humility, self-denial, and renunciation of the world. Thus the first simplicity disappears. A worldly flood, flowing into the church, carries with it its customs, practices, and idols. GC 384 Read the rest of this entry

6. Ancient and Current Practises of Babylon


By John Thiel, Audio: Ancient and Current Practises of Babylon

Under the second angel’s message Babylon is always applied to the people or the church having once been faithful becoming corrupt from Noah’s time right through. This message is appropriate for people in modern times as it was way back there. Ancient Babylon was the city that set the stage for all the others to follow. Rome today is still affected by the events of the past and also for the future. Ancient Babylon has affected the world all through history until now.

Their children, along with new converts, came forward and new-modelled the cause. To secure converts, the exalted standard of the Christian faith was lowered, and as the result a pagan flood, flowing into the church, carried with it its customs, practices, and idols. GC 385 Read the rest of this entry

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